In my opinion the most dangerous sites on Curezone are the Ask Moreless forum, the Liver Flush Support forum, the Cancer Support forum, the Alkaline/Acid Support forum and in my opinion the most dangerous forum the Iodine Supplementation Support Forum by VWT Team.
The basis of the Moreless forum was that all disease was caused by acidity and that a drink composed of calcium hydroxide (lime), lemon juice, organic unsulfured molasses and kelp was a cure-all.
Moreless was also well known for making up his own science and promoting it as fact. Some of my favorite claims by Moreless were:
Moreless: The more hydrogen present in a substance the more acidic it is.
Fact: As I pointed out to Moreless hydrochloric acid contains one hydrogen atom and it is quite acidic. On the other hand ammonium hydroxide contains 5 hydrogen atoms and yet is highly alkaline.
Moreless: Sunlight is acidic.
Fact: Sunlight does not have a pH. The sun does contain a lot of hydrogen, which was the basis Moreless used for this claim. But sunlight consists of photons, not hydrogen and therefore does not have a pH.
Moreless: Acidity turns the tissues in to a puddle of goo.
Fact: Many parts of the body are naturally acidic and do not turn in to goo. I asked Moreless about this and why we don’t turn to goo from the acidic protons when we run but he never replied.
Moreless: High brix foods are healthier than low brix foods.
Fact: Brix is simply a measurement of sugar content. As was pointed out to Moreless Coca Cola has a higher brix reading than produce we consume, but this does not make it healthier.
Moreless: Nitrogen is a protein.
Fact: Nitrogen is a gas, not a protein. Proteins do contain nitrogen though.
Moreless: Iodine is an acid.
Fact: Elemental iodine does not have a pH.
Moreless: Alcohol is a hydrocarbon.
Fact: Hydrocarbons consist solely of hydrogen and carbon. Because alcohol also contains oxygen it is not a hydrocarbon.
Moreless: “Now remember that our body does NOT absorb the foods we eat or the minerals we take, but ONLY the Energy, which becomes Released from our foods or Minerals we ingest!”.
Fact: If we did not absorb the compounds such as sugars, amino acids and minerals from our foods then there would be nothing to form our tissues, bones, hormones, neurotransmitters, etc. In other words we would not even exist.
Moreless: Fats are carbohydrates.
Fact: Fats are composed of fatty acids. Carbohydrates are long chain sugar molecules. They are not the same thing.
Moreless: “Absolutely No Rock or Mineral in rock form or in food form can enter into our body tissues until this mineral has become Released from the food or Rock as Energy!”
My response: “Wrong again. I can drink a mineral salt and it will absorb with no problem. Do the minerals have to react with the stomach acid to be utilized by the body? That depends on the form it is in. If the mineral is chelated then it will absorb in that chelated form. If it is in a soluble salt then it will absorb as that salt. If it is in the form of a hydroxide whatever can react with an acid to form a salt can be absorbed, and the rest will pass unabsorbed. This is why calcium and magnesium hydroxides are so poorly absorbed, especially as we age. Then we can also demonstrate that this claim is bogus by the fact that minerals given intravenously are still utilized by the body even though they are being put in to an alkaline environment and they are not being reacted with an acid. “
Moreless frequently talked about the dangers of nitrates and nitrites claiming that they led to methemoglobin production causing animals to suffocate. I found the link where he got the information but he left out the part where is clearly stated that alkalinity in the stomach promoted nitrite formation. Therefore, by his own argument his alkalinizing drink would poison people:
Here are links to some of the other weird and wild claims made by Moreless:
Most of what Moreless posted was in a way hilarious because it was just so ridiculous. On the other hand it was scary to think he was giving health advice and people were actually following him like he was their God. Here are some examples I addressed:
Moreless is very anti-science and thinks that his supposed success testimonials are the only proof needed to show he knows what he is talking about. One problem with this though is that Moreless was famous for deleting posts where people reported adverse effects from his protocol, and then banning anyone reporting adverse effects. Here is one example though of someone being hurt by the Moreless protocol that was posted on my forum so it could not be erased or edited:
Moreless was also famous for re-wording other people’s messages on his forum so that it would appear the person was agreeing with Moreless or praising his protocol. It was these actions that finally got Moreless banned from Curezone.
Furthermore, testimonials even if true are not proof of anything as I explained in this post:
Moreless relied heavily on recruiting to try his protocol by touting all the testimonials that he had. A big problem with this though is that there was no way to verify if the testimonials were real or if he had written them himself or edited people’s posts to make them sound positive, which he was known for doing.
I did run across this post from a supporter who had a change of heart:
The biggest concern with the Moreless protocol was his recommendation to use calcium oxide (lime) to make a drink he wanted people to ingest to alkalize the body. Calcium oxide is the same stuff used to make cement and when you read the bags it clearly warns about not getting it in contact with tissues. The reason is that calcium oxide when it comes in to contact with water forms calcium hydroxide. Hydroxides are very caustic and chemically burn the tissues. Damage from consuming calcium hydroxide can appear immediately or in some cases may not show up for weeks or months.
The danger is not only from the caustic action of calcium hydroxide. Calcium hydroxide also reacts with stomach acid neutralizing the stomach acid. Stomach acid is important for a number of reasons, which I addressed in this post I wrote on the subject:
Neutralizing the stomach acid on a regular basis can lead to numerous health problems including nutritional deficiencies, allergic responses, heart disease, increased risk of infections, etc. These side effects can result from the inability to absorb certain nutrients needed for tissues such as bone. The vitamins B6, B12 and folate are all involved in the process of methylation, which is required for around 4,000 methylation reactions in the body. These include controlling allergic responses, digestion, energy formation, immune regulation, reduction of heart disease promoting homocysteine, hormone and neurotransmitter formation, etc. All three of these vitamins though require sufficient stomach acid for their absorption. Most pathogens are controlled by acidity and thrive in alkalinity. Ingesting calcium hydroxide poses a dual danger here. First of all the hydroxide can burn the tissues damaging them and making them more prone to infection. In addition, the calcium hydroxide can neutralize the acids that normally help to control pathogens further increasing the risk of infections.
Moreless does recommend adding some lemon juice to his drink, which does contain citric and malic acids. These mild organic acids will balance out some or all of the calcium hydroxide depending on the amount added. The problem though is that unless the person has a pH meter to monitor the pH as the lemon juice is added it is impossible to know when enough of the lemon juice is added to neutralize all the caustic calcium hydroxide. Don’t add enough of the lemon juice and the drink is still caustic. Add too much and the drink will be acidic, which according to Moreless the acids will turn the body in to a puddle of goo. Of course I am being sarcastic in the later since the acids produced by the body or that are found in lemon juice will not dissolve the body despite what Moreless claims. Still there is the risk of hydroxide damage if insufficient lemon juice is added.
I never understood why Moreless did not have people just start with calcium citrate in the first place, which is readily available, is the main salt created by the reaction of calcium hydroxide and lemon juice and does not present the danger of caustic burns.
Various people had complained of being harmed by using the Moreless protocol, but many of the posts were deleted by Moreless. Some reports can still be found on other boards though that Moreless did not control and I have a message sent to me by a woman asking for advice after being hospitalized for injuries sustained after following the Moreless protocol.
Two other things that really concern me about the Moreless protocol are the high amount of calcium and the iron from the blackstrap molasses.
Calcium is important to the body, but like anything can be a problem if in excess or not balanced. Calcium is a muscle contractor for the body. For example, the process of rigor mortis when a person dies involves the influx of calcium in to the muscles causing them to go in to a strongly contracted state until enzymes finally break down the muscle tissue. Excessively high serum calcium can cause confusion, depression, high blood pressure, increased risk of asthma attacks, constipation, migraines, muscle cramps, etc. Calcium channel blockers (CCBs) are used to treat various conditions such as high blood pressure and migraines because they prevent calcium from entering the muscle tissue of blood vessels keeping them relaxed. In holistic medicine and even in hospitals for the treatment of preeclampsia associated hypertension (high blood pressure) magnesium is used to lower calcium induced high blood pressure.
My concern here is that the high amount of calcium poses to many potential problems primarily from calcium induced constriction of blood vessels. The resultant decrease in blood flow could theoretically even increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes as other blood vessel constricting agents are known for. Because of this calcium should always be balanced out with sufficient magnesium to maintain the muscle regulatory actions of calcium-magnesium.
As with calcium, iron is essential to the body but dangerous in excess. Excess iron can lead to increased infections, oxidative tissue damage and can promote cancer.
There is also a condition that used to be considered very rare but is now considered common known as hemochromatosis. In this condition there is a buildup of excess iron in the body leading to various health problems and can be fatal. People with hemochromatosis are advised to avoid iron sources and often undergo regular phlebotomy to remove excess iron from the system.